I have never quite understood how Polish car insurance works, but now that the policy that came with my car is about to run out I have had to go and find out about it…
Here is what I know. If anyone has anything to add please leave a comment as always – I hope this article can be a work in progress.
The insurance is ‘with the car’, not ‘with the person’ as in the UK
What does this mean? Well in the UK the policy normally allows you and only you to drive your car unless you add specific named drivers. As a bonus you can normally drive other people’s cars on 3rd party cover too. In Poland it is the other way around – anyone can drive your car if you bought a policy for it.
This is a bit confusing because in both cases the policies specify both the driver and the car.
The net result for us Brits though is two nice bonuses:
- Anyone can drive anyone’s car in Poland (presuming the car is legal of course)
- You can take out insurance in your father-in-law’s name to get a cheaper price (just like we used to do in the UK 20 years ago when we were 17 years old)
The vehicle must be insured continuously
In the UK your vehicle needs to be insured if it is on the road. If you don’t have insurance there is nothing wrong with leaving the car in your garage for example. This is not the case in Poland!
IN POLAND YOUR VEHICLE MUST HAVE INSURANCE CONTINUOUSLY regardless of whether it is road-worthy or not or even if it’s parked up on private property.
This means that the day you buy a Polish vehicle you have to make sure it has insurance. If a policy didn’t come with the vehicle for some reason (e.g. because you imported the vehicle) then you have to go and buy insurance THE SAME DAY. I got bitten by this rule. The powers that be have 5 years to check and apparently they can fine you for it.
European Union Harmonisation
There are a number of directives to harmonise car insurance and driving across the EU. See the official Europa website for details. The basics are that any policy you buy in any EU country automatically gives you the minimum required cover in any other EU country (including Iceland, Norway and Switzerland). Green cards are no longer necessary inside the EU.
Levels of cover
In the UK we have 3 levels – 3rd party only, 3rd party fire and theft and fully comprehensive. In Poland from what I have seen they only have the compulsory minimum level of 3rd party (called “OC” which means Odpowiedzialności Cywilnej – civil liability) and fully comp (called “AC” – Autocasco). You can bundle into the package add-ons such as breakdown cover as they do in the UK.
Insurance that comes with the car when you buy it
This is the bit that I still don’t fully understand. In the UK because the cover is with the driver the situation is clear cut – you have your policy, I have mine. Because as mentioned the cover in Poland is with the car, this means that when you buy a car from someone the policy is transferred to you. Well sort of. From what I can work out you have 30 days from when you buy the car to contact the insurance company and change the policy in to your name.
I didn’t change my policy within 30 days and that caused me the following problems:
- I was then not able to change the insurance company until the policy expired. Luckily for me the previous owner had used a cheap company
- I had to keep the sale contract in the car with me when I drove so that I could show that the name on the insurance policy was the seller and that I had bought the vehicle.
Taking out a new policy
Like in the UK 20 years ago (presumably before people started buying their insurance directly or via the phone and then online) everyone in Poland buys their insurance from agents. You will see them everywhere. They seem almost as prevalent as “Apteka”s in the town centres… Just look for the big sign that says “Ubezpieczenie” (insurance) or the names/logos of the big insurance companies (PZU, Warta).
Recently some companies have been advertising on TV where you can buy direct. Examples include Link 4 and LibertyDirect. Fire up google.pl and you’ll find them easily enough.
No claims-bonus – “zniżki”
In the UK we count how many years of NCB we have, in Poland they ask what percentage you have (e.g. 10, 20, 30%..). Otherwise it works as you would expect – you gain your NCB the longer you have a policy without accidents and you can transfer your NCB if you change your insurance company. You can normally also transfer your NCB from the UK if you produce an NCB certificate translated into Polish. Worth checking if you have a lot of NCB from the UK.
Worth knowing – the GOTCHAs
- You must carry your insurance certificate with you all the time
- A policy will auto-renew if you do nothing unlike in the UK where it’s up to you to renew it. If you want to change your company make sure you write to them in good time
- You must have insurance even if your car is not on the road
Prices
Like in the UK the price varies a lot depending on each case. The two biggest factors in Poland appear to be the engine size and how much NCB (zniżki – “reduction”) you have. But a pleasant suprise is that car insurance seems to be very cheap compared to the UK, especially for motorbikes.
For my Suzuki GSF1200 I paid £600/year in the UK for 3rd, F&T (including my UK NCB). In Poland I paid 135 złoty for OC and didn’t even bother to tell them I had any NCB at all.
Remember too that they still haven’t wised up to the trick of taking the insurance out in some else’s name such as a parent or parent-in-law (choose someone old with a lot of NCB). But to do that the vehicle needs to have this other person listed as a co-owner on the registration document. I did that this morning with my father-in-law so will cover that in my next blog post.
Happy motoring…
Tags: car insurance, vehicle insurance
Thanks for that good information. Normally my wife (she is Polish) does these things, but it helps to know.
Hi Ben,
I just found your blog via google. Found it extremely helpful, as I (German) am going to study at the uni in Warsaw for about 10 months, starting in october, and there’s so much legal stuff involved.
I’m thinking of bringing my (500cc) motorcycle with me. Would you recommend registering it in Poland? I read your posts and it seems hardly worth the effort and costs (currently paying about 200 Euro p.a. for insurence and registration).
Also, is it 1 year I can live in PL without registering the vehicle (like it is in Germany and apparently in the UK too)?
Are there any downsides to driving with German plates, i.e. are the cops more likely to give me a hard time, bike more prone to theft?
Please forgive me for pestering you with these questions, but any help would be much appreciated. I’m somewhat lost here, as my Polish is still very rudimentary.
Thanks,
Julian
Hi Julian
No problem – guess it depends on if you can be bothered with the hassle more than anything. It cost me just over 500 zloty to import my bike, which is about 155 euros. After that you only need insurance each year which probably will only be about 40 euros. So if you are going to keep the bike in Poland for a couple of years you are going to save some money by registering it there as that’s a lot cheaper than the 200 euros your paying each year in Germany…
I believe it is 1 year you can be in Poland on foreign plates but how does anyone know how long you have been here? They can’t check it so I wouldn’t worry about it. I know people who have had British cars here for years and no one has cared. Anyway you will probably be riding back to Germany now and then won’t you? The clock starts each time you cross the border.
Regarding theft or Police hassle I don’t think the plates will make any difference. It’s just as easy to steal a German bike as it is to steal and sell on a Polish one, so I don’t think there are any downsides. In fact you have an upside because you are more likely to avoid speeding/parking tickets etc.. on foreign plates….
Only other thing is that you will need to have your Polish anmeldung (see my posts on zameldowanie) to register your bike there but you probably know that already. If you are only melded for 3 months then your bike is only registered for 3 mths too so each time you get your anmeldung extended you have to go and get your bike registration certificate updated too (but that isn’t so painful). Good luck.
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Hmm…just querying this.
Does this mean that it’s entirely possible for someone older (who has no intention of ever driving!) to buy a car and insure it? If so… :)
Yeah funny how my wife’s vehicle is in her mother’s name, and mine is in my father-in-law’s. My father-in-law’s is in… hang on… jeez I don’t even remember anymore whose car is whose!
Hi there again (don’t know if you remember, I asked some questions in the “How to buy a vehicle in poland” post some time ago :)).
Now I want to take the car to my home country. I got the transfer plates (these ones with red numbers), but when I tried to get insurance for it (with the help of a polish friend), they told us that we can only get 3 months insurance, even if the plates are valid only for 1 month. We had time to try only in 2 insurance companies (Efect and PTU) but woth said the same.
Is that right? I thought that with the red-numbered 1-month plates you could get 1-month insurance for the transport of the car to its new country. At least when people buy cars in Germany it works like that. We’ll go tomorrow morning to check some more but I would like to know if you know more about this (like some company that for sure gives 1-month insurance with red plates).
Thanks again!
Don’t know about that, but if it doesn’t cost too much you might as well just pay for 3 months and save yourself the hassle. Did you try pzu?
Hi!
I’m happy to find this page, very useful stuff indeed!
I have a bike what I will register then (just moving to Poland from UK) but I also have a campervan and my Father-in-law told me that I cannot register a right-hand-wheel car in Poland… Is that true? what about insuring an EU car there? Just to have it all clear. Most UK policies does not like overseas driving. However if it’s fine i can leave it on English insurance as I’d pay only 350 for full cover as it’s a camper. :)
Thanks for the answers!
Zoltan
Yes that’s right. Currently you can’t register RHD vehicles in Poland. This is against EU law which says you should be able to and the case will most likely go to court before it gets resolved.
Any UK policy gives you 3rd party cover across the entire EU automatically. If you want fully comp then you would have to find a company happy to give you fully comp abroad.
Also see the comments on this page that might help you:
http://www.britishinpoland.com/blog/2008/02/english-cars-in-poland/
Thanks for the information, good comparison between UK and Poland Insurance. It will be very helpful to others. I insured my car in UK with Churchill Car Insurance. Whenever I buy any of the car products from this insurance company online, then 15% discount is offered to me….In this way it makes the customer eligible for level one car breakdown cover from Green Flag, one of the largest and specialist breakdown service providers in United Kingdom with average response time of 30 minutes! Churchill Insurance is more appealing by the fact that 84% of the times breakdown services engaged by customers have been successful saving time and money…
http://insurancefacts.co.uk/Churchill-Car-Insurance/
Could someone please tell me what i should do.
I’m Dutch but live in Poland. I bought a car here, but couldn’t register it, cause i have a Dutch passport, not a polish one. So now i still have this car, not registered on my name, but without insurance. The insurance has expired 3 months now. Can i just sell the car to someone else in Poland, without having troubles for the time that the car was not insured? Remember that the car is not registered now, i’m not driving in it. It’s parked on privat ground here. Thanks a lot to the person who can give me any help here.
Hi.
Yes you could have registered it – makes no difference that you don’t have a Polish passport. I don’t have a Polish passport (only British) and I was able to buy a car and register it no problem at all (see here: http://www.britishinpoland.com/blog/2008/02/how-to-buy-a-vehicle-in-poland/ ).
It is an offence to register a car but not have valid insurance, even if the car is off the road. But as you didn’t ever register it in your name I don’t see that this could cause you a problem.
Yes you could just sell the car. The new owner would need to sort out their own insurance when they then register it themselves.
Cheers.
Ben
You are such a great blogger!! Amazing!!!
I’m very happy to get valuable information in your blog.
To make a long story short, I ‘d like to get the information about a car insurance. I have read all of your postings about buying a vehicle in polandand I could get valuable information. Thank you, but I still need …..
I bought a car on the 23th of september.(second hand/made in the year of 2009/ Model: hyundai i 30 w/ price:1400 Euro)
Now I am going to buy a car insurance.
So, I’d like to compare some estimated price.
In my country( South Korea) I bought it direct without the help of agent.
Is it cheaper to buy it directly?
Which insurance company is better?
Plaese recommend some car insurance companies which will give me better cover when something happens with lower price.
Of course, I will try to find some like Link 4 and LibertyDirect. Fire up google.pl and the like, too.
When I asked one polish agent how much money I should pay for car insurance( comprehensive) , he said,
“1500 PLN!!!!. If you submit the no claim document(I have more than 20 year no claim) , You get a maxmimum 60% discount.”
Many thanks !!!
Sorry , the price of my car is 14000 Euro. I imported from slovakia. So I Paid excise duty( 3.1%/ 1690 PLN ). And I will also have to Pay VAT…..ㅠㅠㅠ,
Just before I caluculated the premium on line(Aliantz- direct)
The premium on the computer screen was 3** PLN.
Yes it’s still normal to use agents in Poland. I use MTU as they are quite cheap and you can find their agents at any main post office (poczta polska) – just ask. Link4 and Liberty Direct are two of the bigger direct ones. I don’t know how they compare though.
Just a query really. If I bring a car from the UK, Register it in Poland and then take it back to the UK how long do I have before the Insurance expires. Can I renew the policy from the UK?
In addition do I have to register it in my own name or can I register it in a 3rd Party’s name or in the name of a company for example?
Many thanks
JonGee
Most policies last for a year but generally renew automatically unless you explicitly cancel them (or don’t pay!). Yes you probably could renew it from the UK just by phoning up your insurer/agent and paying the bill online. Remember that your Polish insurance might not be valid if you don’t have an up to date technical inspection (i.e. a Polish MOT).
Who you register the car to depends on who is on the sales contract, so if you want to register it to somebody else you will need to have the sales contract in their name.
Hello Ben,
Really useful post, I found it doing a little bit of research over the internet.
I hope you can help me. I am an Italian living in Warsaw and I have my company registered here (I am paying ZUS, health and social insurance), also I have a NIP number. Can I buy and register a car with this documentation?
Also, do you or anybody know a translator? I do not speak polish and I don’t have any friends here (and usually is quite complicated to find someone who speaks English here, more in the public buildings).
Thank you very much in advance!
I have a question which you might be able to help with. Due to the high cost of insurance for commercial vehicles in the UK I am considering purchasing a vehicle abroad and also insuring it abroad, with the intention of bring it back to the UK with foreign plates.
I know that I can do this for a period of 6 months, at which point I must leave the country for 24 hours and then return. What I am not sure about is are there any laws in Poland which stop me, a British & EU citizen purchasing and registering a van in Poland.
Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks
You would need to be registered at an address in Poland, and you would need to travel to Poland each year to do a technical inspection (i.e. MOT).
is there any details about price of insure in Poland regarding car ?
Im going to buy Mercedes class C its for 2001 ,
is there any link where i could get information about how much should i pay for chepst insurane ,
and im not polish ,
can i just register it by my girl friend ? she would have any problem about ?
Thanks for the help :-)
Now for the strange question… Do you have any idea what Category “H” translates to in Poland?
It would be for driving tracked vehicles, I tried explaining this in the Urzad and was simply told “You can’t do that in Poland….”
Thanks in Advance,
Kevin
Yes, it looks like “H” doesn’t exist in Poland and is not recognised by the EU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence#Categories_valid_in_all_EU_countries.5B2.5D
Hello.
My name is Alex…finally I have found a little Corsa for me, but the car has polish Insurance and Polish plates as well. I am from Romania and I would like to go home for Christmas. The care is insured until April 2012 in Poland. If I buy the car now, can I go home with it’s Poland’s Insurance or I need to make an another Insurance here in UK. Can I pay the Insurance for Poland after April 2012?
Thank you in advance!
So I understand that you are in the UK. In theory you can drive that car anywhere in the EU until April 2012 but how do you know that the previous owner hasn’t cancelled that insurance policy or stopped paying for it? I think you would have problems extending/insuring the car in Poland if it isn’t registered in your name in Poland. Can you not get some temporary ‘export’ number plates and insurance from Romania?
Hi there
I have a question which you might be able to help with. Due to the high cost of insurance vehicles in the UK I am considering to buy a vehicle in Poland and also insuring it , with the intention of bring it back to the UK with polish plates.
Im polish, I do have Polish anmeldung on my ID but I also done cat. A in UK so I had to exchange my driving licence. I do hold my car driving licence over 10 years but the insurence companes in UK with my new categores A on it treat my as a new driver and the cost of insur a bike is very high to compare with Poland.
I will recall that in Poland I am entitled to have about 40-50 % discounts on the third party liability (my father registered on my name trailer some years ago)
Also is it possible to do MOT after a year in UK and transfer the documentation to Polish insurer to keep the insurence running?
And do I have to after 6 months cross the border? how they gone check that if I dont, and I will keep driving around UK?
Thanks a lot for any help
Aga
You could do that but you can’t MOT a Polish car in the UK. You would have to take the car back to Poland each year for the mechanical inspection. You are supposed to take the car out of the UK at least once a year. I don’t know if they can check that or how they check that. Usually it’s because a neighbour complains that your car is there the whole time and they investigate you. If that happens you might be asked to provide some evidence that you took the car out of the UK (e.g. by showing that you bought some ferry tickets for that car).
I wish I had found this earlier. I sold my old pug in November and understood that the guy would have my insurance for 30 days. It now appears that he has my insurance until the end of term (June 2012). If you are selling a car with a long insurance then you need to get a form from the insurance company BEFORE you sell the car and ask the purchaser to sign it at the time. I got the papers after the sale and sent it to the guy and he said ‘You sold the car with insurance, that’s life’.
And, by the way, he did get it in his father’s name to keep the insurance down!